Test Drive Subaru Tribeca since 2007 SUV
Their overseas Majesty
Externally, these two as the sky and the earth. The whole is licked, similar to the large, Radibey whale. And intentionally square, wardrobe pilot. What is between them? Yes, the fact of the matter is that, according to the design, appointment and parquet essence, these cars are almost identical. So what kind of choose? Gemini, but not twins
A couple of years ago, large American speakers who produce Japanese firms in the States could get into Russia only by the efforts of gray dealers. However, times are changed, and today there are three legal Japanese Americans. At the end of 2006, Subaru moored to the Russian shores.
Let's not a beauty and not at all like a well-known impedition to us, Legacy and Forester, this car hit the impressive, truly American sizes: she, by the way, is more jeep grand-cereals. Under to become a majestic appearance, a powerful 6-cylinder opposite motor and a rich equipment, including a machine and a leather interior. All this provided a native of the city of Lincoln that in the American state of Indiana, a very good demand for more than one and a half thousand cars per year, for such a dear car a very worthy result.
What obviously served as a signal for Honda. And at the end of the last summer, a pilot arrived to us. Looking at rudely dying face of his box-shaped body, you might think that Honda is blinded from another test. However, the harsh appearance of the real sacrifice is only an attempt to spend Yankees, respecting such utilitarian semicircles. In essence, its carrying body, an independent suspension, a constant four-wheel drive without hard locks and a lower pilot almost twin tribems. The same large parquetnik, only on a half-meter longer and one horsepower is weaker.
Yes, Subaru is more expensive than Honda for as many as 312,000 rubles. But it only makes an additional intrigue into their dispute. After all, in his homeland, rivals stand almost the same difference in prices of less than a thousand dollars.
From what steamer?
Frankly, do not be on the steering wheel of the pilot of the branded emblem, I would hardly guessed that I was in the Honda salon. Everything is somehow too easy around, idle. The instrument shield does not look like so cool, as toy. And the flat faces of the torpedo, large nozzles of ventilation deflectors and the lever of the automatic designer lever on the left edge of the central console, designers as if spied in the chassis of the river boat. Highly recreated in a comfortable electrified leather chair, and I want to shout: Hey, the engine room, full forward!
Leather seats with adjustments of adjustments are available only in expensive equipment Executive
An additional mirror for child observation is only at the pilot
Honda's glove box is also small, but above it has a comfortable extra shelf
Central Boxing is about twice as good as Subaru
In the configuration of the executive, as in the expensive version of Subaru, there is a color rear view camera screen. True, in the pilot he is significantly less
Passengers of Honda sofa offers a separate climate control panel and seats heating
The ability to open the glass rear door is sometimes very by the way
As in the other sedan of the business class, on the rear doors of Honda there are sunscreen curtains
Of course, you can argue about design. Therefore, we do not give him any estimates. Honda was deprived of the score for quite objective miscalculations in decoration and ergonomics. Frankly budget and soft only on door and central armrests plastic does not paint the machine at a time and a half. In the small, climate control buttons that have knocked in a bunch of climate control. And why huge lops mirrors are not equipped with a folding electric drive? Do you think luxury? Then try to drive around the city yard on the oscidence almost two meters wide.
Leather Salon with Seats Electric Drives enters the basic equipment of the tribe
Tribeks have more functional sun visors with retractable sections
In the plated velvet glove box will fit, alas, only a small book or magazine
Boxing with two branches is suitable for both a dozen of CDs and for different smallers
For an additional 86,300 rubles in the tribek, not only the DVD player for the rear passengers will appear, but also the color display on the front panel, and the rear view camera
Drawers in the end of the central boxing sofa passengers can use for various smallers. Or for garbage
At the 5-seater version, the place of two additional armchaks occupies a convenient and spacious organizer.
Sabar Salon looks more interesting, more expensive and thoughts about the high-speed yacht. In the same marine theme, the switches of climate control modes are made in the form of portholes. However, in the interior of the tribek not everything is perfect. The driver's seat cushion is short. The only adjustment of the steering column over the angle of inclination does not provide a high driver of a comfortable fit. Plastic finishing too, by the way, soft only with sight. And at all, we did not expect to detect the most ordinary auto, without automatic darkening, the mirror and the only automatic power windows.
Seven and not along the shop
Honda is sold only in a 7-seater version. However, it is unlikely that someone will come to mind to regret that they were imposed on two additional seats. After all, such seats will ensure proper comfort not only for children, but also adults even with high adults. Yes, passengers with growth up to 186 cm without problems will be boosted by each other in all three rows. From the jeeps in our market such a spacious third row unequivocally do not have anyone. Yes, and the only one of the minivans who can compare (but not exceed!) In this respect with the pilot, Ford Galaxy. In addition, the seats of the middle row can be moved independently from each other back and forth and adjust the slope of their backs. Finally, when it takes more space in the trunk, the chairs of the gallery can be easily removed in the floor.
In any car part of the sofas, you can move back and forth and adjust the tilt of their backs.
In addition to a pair of cupcakers in the rear armrest of the pilot, there is still a tray for a mobile phone or player
Subaru even for surcharge at 55,800 rubles, but also can be 7-seater. Just keep in mind: if you do not have a big family with children not older than the middle school age, overpay for additional folding seats meaningless. Already they are small and close. However, the sofa of the tribek for 7 cm already, rather than at the pilot, which is why it is convenient only for two.
Dimensions are given in centimeters. * Distance from seat cushion to ceiling. The space for the feet of the sitting rear is indicated, provided that the driver's growth is 185 cm.
The simpler, the more
Thanks to the uncomfortable body form, nor give a container on wheels the door of the honda trunk is installed vertically, and the walls of the cargo compartment are almost even. As a result, if you fold the seats of the rear two rows, a van with dimensions of 2020 x 1280 x 840 mm and a capacity of almost two and a half cube are obtained. Comments, as they say, unnecessary. In addition, the pilot can boast also a separately opening glass of the fifth door, which allows you to immerse the nonsense to fuck on the close parking lot.
Folded rear seats form smooth sites. However, the black floor of the Honda freight compartment is practical
In addition to a pair of large road suitcases in the trunk of Subaru (left), there is still a lot of cargo. But, as can be seen in the photo, in the body of the pilot places much more. Suitcase and sports bag or backpack in it can be immersed even in a 7-seater version
Not to say that the tribe cheek is modest. With a folded sofa from the edge of the rear door to the backs of the front armchaas, the smooth and also very decent glade is 1810 and a 1220 mm width. And under it, 5-seater Subaru has a convenient organizer for tools and any little things.
And faster and not necessary From this year, the tribek motor has become 13 liters. With. More powerful. And before, he did not suffer a disadvantage of the traction, the currently, and that church. Protagable overtaking on the highway, sharp jerks for rebuildings are given to Subaru very easy. The declared 8.9 from overclocking to hundreds of doubt do not cause. It does not annoy the 5-speed ACP, which, if sharply press the gas, is thinking only on a split second. However, the one who needs an even more ambulance reaction can use the sports or manual box modes helps.
At first, we thought that the wardrobe pilot would not be easy to sleep for such a rapid rival. However, our assumptions justified only in part. First, the forces and Newton meters in its motor practically as much. And secondly, thanks to the tighter settings of the hydrotransformer from the start and up to 100 km / h, Honda lagged behind Subaru only a quarter of the case. And only when I went even faster, the gap increased: the aerodynamics of the grandmother's bullfiner became more and more.
Nevertheless, 160 km / h pilot gains easily and until this limit does not force his driver to be nervous when overtaking. Do I need such a big car to drive faster? I think, hardly. Therefore, deprive it only half of the score.
We did not have complaints about the brakes of the opponents. Despite the mass of two more tons, both are completely reliable.
For the same reason
Oddly enough, the soft suspension of the tribek thoroughly spoil and comfort. Small bumps and pits The car is passing no less smoothly than a very good business sedan. However, it happened in the asphalt even a shallow pothole with sharp edges, shock absorbers and springs will pass, passing a unpleasant knock into the salon. Worse, an uneven road or, say, the paving tram paths cause the body and on the steering wheel a noticeable tremor. However, this behavior is not news for a large car with an obvious American accent.
But the engine itself, the nobility itself growls only at an urgent request, when to spin it over 4500 rpm. At idle in the Sabar salon there is a solemn silence. It is good and sound insulation of the wheeled arches: at speeds for 140 km / h, only howls the wind in the housings of the mirrors, but not the root of the tires.
The pilot against the background of the tribe is more comfortable. Yes, with his slightly disgruntled harsh, his engine declares itself a little earlier worth the tachometer arrow run a mark of 3000 rpm. But only. Incredibly, but the fact of Honda's rectangular body breaks down the incoming air flow is almost as sickly as Subaru. And how much encouraged by it behaves on the bumps! Somewhat by the smoothness of the move, the pilot elastically drives along very stupid Koldybinam and much less often the rival worries his passengers with a knock on the suspension chips.
Do not abuse!
However, a very short Honda suspension is designed for riding only on even roads, preferably with a solid coating. Do not believe? Take a look under the front bumper, and you will see aluminum levers, which, due to their harness, do not meet any of the serious jeeps. There is no pilot and lowering, only a soft absorbing blocking of the central differential. She, together with the imitating ESP interclapion blocking, did not help the car cope with diagonal hanging. Yes, and rear Svez Honda is long.
The pilot does not yet cling to the belly about the soil, but the pseudo blocking of the inter-wheeled differentials, even on such a non-crime, the rise is already passing
Subaru will be able to climb on the border, but no more. The moves of her suspension is no more than that of ordinary passenger cars
But the tribek, the permanent four-wheel drive of which only provides more secure than the ordinary car, driving on slippery coating, on the off-road and at all. We did not even be able to call a small bump from the first time to hang the rear wheel, prevented the bumper jaw very outstanding the jaw. Perhaps in a loose sand or shallow snow, the dynamic stabilization system will slow down the axle wheel and helps to leave the trap. However, such experiments are better not at all born for asphalt dirt can not be kneaded!
That's the way
Even more than an unexpected ability, the pilot surprised handling. Of course, the steering wheel, which makes the stop of 3.6 turns, is not able to provide acute reactions of the younger brother of Sivik, however, it can be quite informative. Engineers taught the osselnik also not very much in shorts. As a result, quickly rebuilt into the next row and draw slow turns on such a large and high car is absolutely not voltage. And on high-speed direct and arc, the pilot is kept by a young man.
But the tribek, the gift that is built on the chassis of gutter legacy, in turns are not at all ah. Large rolls are forcing stronger to drop speed before the next turn. And a completely empty steering wheel does not contribute to the active drive. This Subaru reminds of their relatives-athletes only on an even straight highway, where at high speed demonstrates reliable coursework stability.
Round excellent students
Neither the tribek nor the pilot in Europe is sold, so there were no crash tests of these cars in EuroNcap. But according to the full program with frontal and side blows and even overturning oscidences were experienced in the American National Road Safety Administration. Equipped with full sets of 6 airbags, Subaru and Honda received the highest ratings from NHTSA.
We do not have the slightest reason to reduce excellent points. After all, on the machines supplied to us, starting with the most accessible complete sets, also six airbags, and in addition, active head restraints, ABS and dynamic stabilization systems.
Incomplete match
Japanese brand cars, unlike European, rarely please large number of complete sets and options, but are not bad in the database. This is a pilot for 1,400,000 rubles. In addition to those mentioned above, the means of active and passive safety has a full electric car, 3-zone climate control, heating of seats, good music, cast discs. And surcharges 100,000 rubles for a complete set of executive, you will also get a leather interior, electric hatch and soored by a large car parking sensors. It remains to add ten more thousands of metallic. One and a half million per large, well-equipped 7-seater all-wheel drive car great? Yes, not quite. For buyers, ready to spend such an amount, the quality of the machine finishes is very important. And with this, the pilot, to put it mildly, not very.
But the inconsistency of the price and the level of finishing in the tribe checkers. After all, it is worth a minimum of 1,712,000 rubles. And although it is not worse than Honda, plastic in the cabin is not at all softer.
Close third row in Subaru (left) cost more money very correctly
Moreover, the service service of the tribe checkers among all the soughs almost most expensive. For three TOs that need to go into the first 30,000 km run, pay as much as 43 500 rubles. Similar works for Honda cost 20,000 rubles, that is, two are more cheaper.
Honda Pilot.
Subaru Tribeca.
common data
Body, number of places / doors
Universal, 7/5
Universal, 5 (7) / 5
Curb weight, kg
2062.
1908 (1941)
Dimensions, mm.
4870x1995x1845.
4865x1880x1720.
Base, mm.
2780.
2750.
Road clearance, mm
203.
210.
Trunk volume (7/5/2 place), l
589/1251/2464.
450/1063/2103.
Diameter of reversal, m
11.3.
12,2
Speed, km / h
180.
207.
Acceleration 0-100 km / h, with
9.9
8.9
Fuel consumption, l / 100 km (highway / city)
9.2 / 16.3.
9.0 / 16,2
Fuel reserve
80 / AI-95
64 / AI-95
Engine
Location
Fit transverse
Front prolong
Design
6-Cyl., Petrol, V-shaped
6-Cyl., Gasoline, horizontal-opposite
Diam. Cyl. x stroke porsch., mm
89x93.
92x91.
Working volume, SMZ
3471.
3630.
Max. Power, l. With. at rpm
257/5700
258/6000.
Torque, kgmm at rpm
35.4 / 4800.
35.7 / 4000.
Chassis
Drive unit
Permanent full
Transmission
5-st. Automatic
Transmission numbers: I; II; III; IV; V; Z.Kh.
2.42; 1.56; 1.02; 0.78; 0.59; 1,89.
3.54; 2.27; 1.47; one; 0.84; 2.37
main gear
4,37.
3,59.
Suspension:
Independent, spring
in front
Type Mac Foodson
behind
Multi-type
Double-perk
Steering
Rack type with amplifier
Torkemose
Disk ventilated
Tire size
245/65 R17
255/55 R18.
Car
12,56 руб / km
17,72 rubles / km
price, rub.
1 500 000
1 798 300
We decided:
It turns out, our today's rivals are also united and the desire to look more serious than they really are.
The courageous appearance of the pilot (average estimate 4.2) will envy another real jeep. However, I want to give advice: do not give in to provocations. After all, this Honda who dreamed of a high-wheel drive minivan with high clearance, a very spacious lounge, a spacious trunk, a comfortable suspension, and alas, budget, a comfortable suspension, and alas, budget finish. In addition, some kind of off-road and think forget.
The tribeque looks expensive, fashionable, richly equipped and very dynamic, but when it comes to the case, loses quite a lot (average rating is 3.7). For comfort, capacity, manageability, it is inferior to Honda, and it is essential more expensive. So as long as the Mazda CX-9 will appear at the end of the year, the pilot remains the most advantageous offer among large Japanese-American parkets.
Andrei Koltun, photo Maxim Potcharov
A source: Journal buy cars [11/2008]
