Honda Pilot test drive since 2009 SUV
Their overseas majesty
Outwardly, these two are like heaven and earth. All licked, similar to a large, well -fed whale of Tribec. And intentionally square, a closet. What is common between them? Yes, the fact of the matter is that in terms of design, purpose and its own parquet essence, these machines are almost identical. So which one to choose? Gemini, but not twins
A couple of years ago, large American SUVs who produce Japanese firms in the states could only get to Russia through the efforts of gray dealers. However, times are changing, and today we have three quite legal Japanese-Americans. The first at the end of 2006, Subaru moored to the Russian shores.
Let it be not a beauty and not at all similar to the Impreza, Legashi and Forester that are familiar to us, this car was striking impressive, truly American dimensions: it, by the way, is more than a jeep-grand chain. A powerful 6-cylinder opposition motor and rich equipment, including a machine gun and a leather interior, to match the majestic appearance. All this provided a native of the city of Lincoln, in the American state of Indiana, a very good demand for more than one and a half thousand cars per year, for such an expensive car there is a very worthy result.
Which, obviously, served as a signal for Honda. And at the end of last summer, the pilot came to us. Looking at the roughly hewright faces of his box -shaped body, you might think that Honda is cast from another dough. However, the harsh appearance of a real all -resistance is just an attempt to spend the Yankees, respecting just such utilitarian half -loads. In fact, its supporting body, an independent suspension, a permanent all -wheel drive without hard locks and a reducing pilot is almost a twin of the tribe. The same large SUV, only half a centimeter longer and one horsepower is weaker.
Yes, Subaru is more expensive than Honda for as much as 312,000 rubles. But this only brings additional intrigue to their dispute. After all, in their homeland, rivals are almost the same in prices of less than a thousand dollars.
From which steamer?
Frankly, if I hadn’t had a company emblem on the steering wheel, I would hardly have guessed that I was in the Honda salon. Everything is somehow too simple around, artlessly. The instrument shield does not look as cool as toy. And the flat edges of the torpedo, large nozzles of ventilation deflectors and the designers, the designers, seemed to spy on the river boat in the head edge of the central console. Highly sitting in a comfortable electrified leather chair, I just want to shout: hey, a machine compartment full forward!
Leather seats with electric drives of adjustments are available only in expensive equipment execution
Only the pilot has an additional mirror for observing children
Honda glove box is also small, but there is a convenient additional shelf above it
The central box is about twice as spacious than that of Subaru
In the configuration, an execution, as in the expensive version of Subaru, is a color screen of the rear view camera. True, in the pilot it is much less
Honda sofa passengers offers a separate climate control panel and seats heating
The ability to open the glass of the rear door is sometimes very helpful
Like another business class sedan, there are sunscreen curtains on the rear doors of Honda
Of course, you can argue about design. Therefore, we do not give him any assessments. Honda was deprived of a score for quite objective miscalculations in the decoration and ergonomics. Frankly budget and soft only on the door and central armrests plastic does not paint a car at a price of one and a half million. In small climate control buttons, you won’t figure out the buttons of the climate control buttons. And why are huge burdocks of mirrors not equipped with electric power? Do you think luxury? Then try to drive around the city courtyard on an all -round almost two meters wide.
The leather salon with seats is included in the basic equipment of the tribe
The tribes have more functional anti -loner visors with retractable sections
Alas, only a small book or magazine will fit in a burgundy -lined with velvet.
Boxing with two compartments is suitable for both a dozen compactdisks and for different small things
For an additional 86,300 rubles in the tribe, not only the DVD player for the rear passengers will appear, but also the color display on the front panel, and the rear view camera
Box in the end of the central boxing passengers can use sofa for various small things. Or for garbage
On a 5-seater version, the place of two additional chairs occupies a convenient and roomy organizer
The Subaru salon looks more interesting, more expensive and evokes thoughts about a high -speed yacht. In the same marine theme, climate control modes executed in the form of portholes. However, not everything is perfect in the interior of the tribes. The driver's seat pillow is short. The only adjustment of the steering column on the angle of inclination does not provide a high driver of convenient landing. The plastic of the finish, too, by the way, is only in appearance. And we really did not expect to find the most ordinary, without automatic dimming in an expensive car, a mirror and the only automatic electric glass.
Seven and out of the shop
Honda is sold only in a 7-seater version. However, it is unlikely that anyone would have thought to regret that they were imposed on two additional seats. After all, such seats will provide proper comfort not only to children, but also to adults even tall adults. Yes, passengers up to 186 cm tall will be sustained without any problems for each other in all three rows. Of the jeeps in our market, no one definitely has such a spacious third row. And the only minivan who can be compared (but not surpass!) In this regard with the pilot, Ford Galaxy. In addition, the seats of the middle row can be independently moved back and forth from each other and adjust the inclination of their backs. Finally, when it takes more space in the trunk, the gallery chairs are easy to remove to the floor.
In any of the cars, part of the sofas can be shifted back and forth and adjust the slope of their backs
In addition to a pair of cup holders in the rear arm of the pilot, there is another tray for a mobile phone or player
Subaru, albeit for an additional payment of 55,800 rubles, but can also be 7-seater. Just keep in mind: if you do not have a large family with children no older than secondary school age, it is pointless to overpay for additional folding seats. They are completely small and cramped. However, the tribe sofa is 7 cm already than that of the pilot, which is why it is very convenient for only two.
The dimensions are given in centimeters. * The distance from the seat pillow to the ceiling. The space for the legs of the seated rear is indicated provided that the driver’s growth is 185 cm.
The easier, the more
Due to the unpretentious shape of the body, neither give a container on the wheels the door of the trunk Honda is installed vertically, and the walls of the cargo compartment are almost smooth. As a result, if you fold the seats of the rear two rows, a van with dimensions of 2020 x 1280 x 840 mm and with a capacity of almost two and a half cube is obtained. Comments, as they say, are unnecessary. In addition, the pilot can also boast of the fifth door that separately opening glass, which allows you to immerse a minor luggage in a tight parking lot.
The folded rear seats form even areas. However, the black floor of the Honda cargo compartment is more practical
In addition to a pair of large road suitcases in the trunk of Subaru (left), a lot of cargo will fit. But, as can be seen in the photo, there is much more space in the back of the pilot. A suitcase and a sports bag or backpack in it can be immersed even in a 7-seater version
Not to say that the trigger triber is modest. With a folded sofa from the edge of the rear door to the backs of the front seats, a flat and also very decent meadow 1810 and a wide -wide glade of 1220 mm long extends. And under it, a 5-seater Subaru has a convenient organizer for tools and all sorts of little things.
But not necessary faster Since this year, the tribe engine has become 13 liters. With. more powerful. And before, he did not suffer from a lack of traction, now he has been dumbfounded even more blessing. Peretopias on the highway, sharp jerks for rebuilding are given Subaru very easily. The declared 8.9 from overclocking to hundreds of doubts do not cause doubts. The 5-speed automatic transmission is not annoyed, which, if you sharply press on the gas, thinks only on a split second. However, the one who needs an even more ambulance can use the sports or manual modes of the box.
At first, we thought that it would not be easy for a cabinet pilot to keep up with such a lively rival. However, our assumptions were justified only partly. Firstly, the strength and Newton meters in its motor is almost the same. And secondly, thanks to the tighter settings of the hydrotransformer from the start and up to 100 km/h Honda lagged behind Subaru only by a quarter of the case. And only when we went even faster, the gap increased: the aerodynamics of the grandmother's chiffonier began to affect more and more.
Nevertheless, the pilot gains 160 km/h easily and before that the limit does not force his driver to be nervous during overtaking. Do I need to go faster to such a large car? It seems hardly. Therefore, we deprive it only half of the point.
We had no complaints about the brakes of rivals. Despite the mass of more than two tons, both are slowly slow down.
For the same reason
Oddly enough, the soft suspension of the tribes thoroughly spoiled and comfort. Small bumps and holes passes the car no less smoothly than a very good business sedan. However, if it happened in the asphalt, even a shallow pothole with sharp edges, shock absorbers and springs graze, passing an unpleasant deaf knock into the salon. Worse, an uneven road or, say, paving stones of tram tracks cause a noticeable trembling in the body and on the steering wheel. However, this behavior is not news for a large machine with a clear American accent.
But the engine itself growls only at the urgent request, when you promote it over 4,500 rpm. At idle in the Subaru salon there is solemn silence. The noise insulation of the wheeled arches is good: at speeds for 140 km/h, only the howl of wind in the mirrors is heard, but not the rumble of tires.
The pilot against the background of tribes is more comfortable. Yes, with his slightly dissatisfied grunt, his motor declares himself somewhat earlier than the tachometer arrow run to 3000 rpm. But just. Incredibly, the fact of the raging stream of air breaks with its rectangular body almost as inaudibly as Subaru. And how much more collected she behaves on bumps! Having somewhat a smoothness of the course, the pilot elasticly passes through the very unfinished potholes and much less often rivals bothers his passengers with the knock of the suspension closed to the chips.
Do not abuse!
However, a very short -moving Honda suspension is designed to ride only on flat roads, preferably with a hard coating. Do not believe? Look under the front bumper, and you will see aluminum levers that, due to their flimsy, will not find any serious jeeps. The pilot does not have a lowering gear, only a soft blocking of the central differential allowing slip. She, along with the ESP inter -coil locks, did not help the car cope with the diagonal hanging. And Honda rear overhang is long.
The pilot still does not catch his belly on the soil, but the pseudo -pseudoscience of inter -celesho differentials, even on such a short -haired rise, is already grazed
Subaru will be able to climb into the curb, but nothing more. The passages of her suspension are no more than that of an ordinary passenger car
But the triber, the permanent all -wheel drive of which only provides safer than that of an ordinary passenger car, driving on slippery coating, on the roads and completely a statist. We could not even call on a small bump the first time to hang out the rear wheel, the bumper jaw was very outstanding forward. Perhaps in loose sand or shallow snow, a dynamic stabilization system will subtit a masking wheel and help to leave the trap. However, such experiments are better not to carry out the dirt born for asphalt at all!
That's how it is
Even more than unexpected renowned, the pilot surprised manageability. Of course, the steering wheel, which makes from the stop to the stop of 3.6 turns, is not able to ensure the sharp reactions of the younger brother of Sivik, but it can be quite informative. The engineers taught the all -around and not to bow much in the bends. As a result, quickly rebuild into the neighboring row and draw slow turns on such a large and high car is completely not stressful. And on high -speed lines and the arc, the pilot holds well as well as well.
But the tribe, for nothing that it was built on the chassis of the gambling legashi, is not at all in the turns. Large rolls make the speed more strongly before the next turn. And the very empty steering wheel does not contribute to an active drive. This Subaru resembles its relatives-sportsmen only on a flat straight highway, where at high speed it demonstrates reliable exchange rate stability.
Round excellent students
Neither tribeca nor pilot in Europe are sold, so these cars were carried out in the Euroncap. But in full the program with frontal and lateral blows and even overturning, all -terrain vehicles experienced in the American National District Administration. Equipped with full sets of 6 Air Bags, Subaru and Honda received the highest grades from NHTSA.
We do not have the slightest reason to reduce excellent points. Indeed, on the machines supplied to us, starting from the most affordable configurations, also six airbags, and in addition, active head restraints, ABS and dynamic stabilization systems.
Incomplete compliance
Cars of Japanese brands, unlike European, are rarely pleased with a large number of configurations and options, but are well equipped in the database. So the pilot for 1,400,000 rubles, in addition to the above-mentioned funds of active and passive safety, has a full electrical packet, 3-zone climate control, heating seats, good music, and cast discs. And by paying 100,000 rubles for the completion of execution, you will also get a leather salon, an electric hatch and parking sensors so necessary for a large car. It remains to add another ten thousand per metallic. One and a half million for a large, well-equipped 7-seater all-wheel drive car is great? Yes, not really. For buyers who are ready to spend such an amount, the quality of the machine finish is very important. And with this, the pilot, to put it mildly, is not very good.
But the inconsistency of the price and level of the decoration of the tribe is still more striking. After all, it costs at least 1,712,000 rubles. And although it is equipped no worse than Honda, the plastic in the cabin is not at all softer.
The tight third row in Subaru (left) costs additional money very correctly
Moreover, the service of the tribes among all all -terrestrialists is almost the most expensive. For three TOs that must be passed in the first 30,000 km of run, pay as much as 43,500 rubles. Similar works for Honda cost 20,000 rubles, that is, more than two times cheaper.
Honda Pilot
Subaru Tribeca
common data
Body, number of places/doors
Universal, 7/5
Universal, 5 (7)/5
Equipped mass, kg
2062
1908 (1941)
Dimensions, mm
4870x1995x1845
4865x1880x1720
Base, mm
2780
2750
Road clearance, mm
203
210
The volume of the trunk (7/5/2 places), l
589/1251/2464
450/1063/2103
The diameter of the turn, m
11.3
12.2
Speed, km/h
180
207
Acceleration 0-100 km/h, with
9.9
8.9
Fuel consumption, l/100 km (highway/city)
9.2/16.3
9.0/16.2
Fuel supply, l
80/AI-95
64/AI-95
Engine
Location
Front transversely
Front longing
Design
6-cyl., Gasoline, V-shaped
6-cyl., Gasoline, horizontal-opposition
Diam. Tsil. x stroke piston., mm
89x93
92x91
Working volume, SMZ
3471
3630
Max. Power, l. With. at rpm
257/5700
258/6000
Torque, kgsm at rpm
35.4/4800
35.7/4000
Chassis
Drive unit
Constant full
Transmission
5-st. Automatic
Transporting numbers: I; II; III; IV; V; Z.Kh.
2.42; 1.56; 1.02; 0.78; 0.59; 1.89
3.54; 2.27; 1.47; one; 0.84; 2.37
main gear
4.37
3.59
Suspension:
Independent, spring
front
Type McEzerson
behind
Mollycent
Double -leaf
Steering
rack type with amplifier
Brakes
Disk ventilated
The size of the tires
245/65 R17
255/55 R18
Car
12.56 rub/km
17.72 rub/km
price, rub.
1 500 000
1 798 300
We decided:
It turns out that our today's rivals are also united by the desire to look more serious than they really are.
The courageous appearance of the pilot (average rating 4.2) will envy another real jeep. However, I want to give advice: do not succumb to provocations. After all, this Honda, which was putting on in the costume of the Wild West conqueror, all -wheel drive minivan with a high clearance, a very spacious interior, a capacious trunk, a comfortable suspension and, alas, budget finishes. In addition, forget about any kind of off -road and forget to think.
The triber looks expensive, fashionable, richly equipped and very dynamic, but when it comes to business, it loses quite a lot (the average rating is 3.7). In terms of comfort, spaciousness, controllability, it is inferior to Honda, and at the same time it is much more expensive. So until Mazda-SX-9 is on sale at the end of the year, the pilot remains the most profitable offer among large Japanese-American SUVs.
Andrey Koltun, photo of Maxim Goncharov
Source: Magazine buy a car [11/2008]
